3. Combination Action, part 1

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Re: 3. Combination Action, part 1

Post by markey111 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:45 pm

it was a simple enough question jim ... I am trying to learn the set up bit by bit. it may be quite clear to some members aand experts ...
but thanks for your help so far i will try and work it out with tom.

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Re: 3. Combination Action, part 1

Post by johnh » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:22 pm

Remember that the stops/couplers/trems switches each generate two MIDI messages, one (CC 81 or 83) when the switch is closed and another (CC 80 or 82) when the switch is opened. The pistons only send one message (Program Change) when the switch is closed.

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Re: 3. Combination Action, part 1

Post by Jim Henry » Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:48 am

markey111 wrote:do they perform another fuction as well
no
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The Miditzer MIDI device.

Post by Berold » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:25 am

Hello,

thank you, Jim, for prompt and very valuable explanations in these discussions. I agree that nearly all issues was already explained and other issues can be investigated by software simulation of MIDI messages in connection to Miditzer.

I have read a lot of your discussions here and may be, I can help you. I can make MIDI device dedicated especially for the Miditzer.

I suppose following features of the device (according Miditzer Style 260SP):

1. MIDIfy all Stops (199 switches)
2. MIDIfy all memory levels (10 switches)
3. MIDIfy all Pistons (PC+0, PC+1, PC+2, MEM..., cancels, about 109 switches)
4. + additionaly MIDIfy Pedalboard (32 pedals)
5. + additionally two Swell/Crescendo pedal inputs (2 potentiometers)

It means you would need only this one MIDI device, (three) MIDI keyboards and one Swell pedal and you can build whole Miditzer Style 260SP organ at home.

Device would be compatible with all Miditzer styles (150, 216, 260).

My questions are:
Would the device be helpful for you?
Do you miss some feature?
How many people would need this device?

Thank you for your ideas.

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Re: The Miditzer MIDI device.

Post by Jim Henry » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:28 pm

Berold wrote:My questions are:
Would the device be helpful for you?
I think this is an open invitation for anyone to express their interest in this device.
Berold wrote: Do you miss some feature?
One thing I spot on a quick review is that there probably should be support for three potentiometer inputs so that two swell pedals can be used. It would be a real plus if audio taper pots could be used because it would simplify use of old electronic consoles. However, that would probably require some analog electronics to condition the logarithmic input.
Berold wrote: How many people would need this device?
Judging from the traffic on these board, I doubt that the number would be large enough to support such a specific device. If I was trying to this, I would think in terms of a device that could be configured to do a wide range of specialized MIDI functions and just use supporting the various Miditzer models as a test of the versatility of my design.
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Re: 3. Combination Action, part 1

Post by Berold » Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:40 am

Hello,

thank you, Jim, for your response.

I agree, three potentiometer inputs would be better.
I don´t understand "audio taper pots". Could you explain it me, please?

Please, continue the discussion at
http://site.virtualorgan.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=389&start=40

Thank you.

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Re: 3. Combination Action, part 1

Post by bobinmissouri » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:01 am

Hello Jim, Are the five videos on Combination Action still available to be watched? I know that you are in the process of establishing new site pages for the Miditzers, which will probably then show the how to videos' internet links. Could you make these links available now as I have some questions on how to use the Combinations set up.
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Re: 3. Combination Action, part 1

Post by Jim Henry » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:35 pm

The videos are now available on the new site:
https://miditzer.org/index.php/support/ ... ion-action

I still should update them though. :oops:
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Re: 3. Combination Action, part 1

Post by greenfox » Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:22 am

Hi Jim

Just a note to say that the tutorial links are working well as well as the "Next" buttons on each page.

The second "backup" link doesn't do anything.

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Re: 3. Combination Action, part 1

Post by Jim Henry » Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:35 pm

Thanks for the feedback Rick. I'll update my post to reflect your report.
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